Meer oor Islam – Vroueregte, egskeiding

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Ek het ‘n vraag gekry omtrent Islam en vroueregte…

Hierso is bietjie agtergrond omtrent die persoon wat verduidelik omtrent Islam en vroueregte, Dr. Zeinab Radwan. Sy was ondervra deur ‘n joernalis in Egipte wat vir ‘n magazine, EGYPT, werk.

“I got the Bachelor Degree of Arts and Education from the Philosophical and Social Studies Department, Faculty of Girls, Ain Shams University in July 1964. Then I got the Master Degree in Islamic Philosophy from the same faculty in 1972. After that I got the Ph.D Degree in Islamic Philosophy from the Faculty of Arts, Alexandria University in 1978. I assumed the position of the Dean of the Faculty of Arabic and Islamic Studies, Cairo University, Al-Fayoum Branch, from July, 1997, to September, 2003.

Finally, I was appointed as a member in Peoples’ Assembly by a presidential decree, then, I was elected Deputy of Peoples’ Assembly Speaker of Brackets in December, 2005. Concerning my most important scientific production stops, I published a number of books, most important of which are: “A Study about the Role of Islam and Law in Pinpointing the Historic Background of Woman’s Position in Egypt”, “Islam and Woman Issues”, which was published three times, by General Book Organization in cooperation with UNESCO and Ministry of Social Affairs in 1988, 1994 and 1999, “Civilization and the Egyptian Women Journey”, “Wife’s Right to Travel: between Law and Sharia”, “Polygamy” which was translated into English and French, and “Religion Wrongful Explanations As One of the Development Obstacles before Woman.”

Furthermore, I contributed to editing some expressions in the Arabic Lexicon. Moreover, I contributed to preparing the report pertaining to the Service Committee in Shoura Council about the child in the Egyptian society. In addition, I contributed to preparing the “International Dictionary for Human Thought” published by Longman.”

Question: You have famous publications about equity of to the woman, which had vast echoes due to your ability in deriving new opinions and explanations. So, what do you think about these issue that draws the attention of many people either internally or abroad?

Answer: Islam came with the principle of equality to set the unity of human race and to demolish the fake discrimination between man and woman as the issue of the relationship between them was full of injustice. Through many generations, the woman was degraded and lost her ability to choose or take steps in life. Woman suffered in the Pre-Islamic eras from slavery in societies that were considered of the most elevated at that time in thinking and liberality; such as the Greek and Roman.

The Arab woman before Islam was also inferior to man. He was the one who represents her in her private affairs, she had no right to marry or to choose her husband, her father or the man responsible for her was the one who marries her. Moreover, marital life did not acknowledge any rights or mutual participation between couples, and wife was always in a state of persecution and blackmail.

When Islam came, it annulled the system of inheriting woman as a part of the legacy and gave her full rights to do to herself whatever she likes. Furthermore, Islam intensively prohibited man’s keeping woman in custody and not allowing her to be married in order to inherit her after her death.

Question: What about the right of the Moslem woman to inheritance?

Answer: Before Islam, inheritance had unjust procedures against the woman; the man had the right to distribute all his properties by his own will and the basic rule in inheritance law was that women do not take anything. When Islam came, it gave the woman an ample share in inheritance to secure her before her man brother.

Concerning the inheritance issue in Islam, we have to put before our eyes the rules organizing it and the considerations taken by Islam while distributing shares among inheritors. This shows grandeur of divine legislation and justice opposite to what is rumored that the woman receiving half of the man’s share of inheritance is a proof of her inferiority. Of course, this is mere calumny and untrue and it is not said except by those who do not understand the reality of the lofty Islamic legislation.

A deep look into the Islamic philosophy of inheritance shows that Islam takes into account other considerations that have no relation to masculinity or femininity. As the woman inherits half of the share of the man, in other times she inherits the same as the man or double as his share or even more. Moreover, she sometimes inherits and men do not. What is most important is that Islam preserves the woman’s complete civil character as well as her competence in bearing responsibilities. Islam also allows the woman to manage her money and all her economic affairs and gives her the right to possess independently. For the married woman, her husband is forbidden to take any amount of her money.

Hierso is ‘n skakel vir nog inligting rakende hierdie fenomenale vrou:

zeinab-radwan.doc

So Islam self is glad nie onderdrukkend teenoor vrouens nie. Inteendeel, partykeer het die vroue baie meer regte as wat ons van weet! Maar een groot fout wat gemaak word is dat mense skei nie Kultuur met Geloof nie – Arabs wat Islam is probeer nog soms die vroue onderdruk, dis nou in lande soos Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, ens. terwyl egiptiese muslims doen dit weer glad nie.

The inheritance law in Islam and in Christianity:

Many times I debate with Christian and non Muslim folks, they bring the inheritance law in Islam as an unjust law to women. According to Islam, the son inherits double the daughter, which means that: One son gets what two daughters get. It is quite unfortunate that Islam is the most misunderstood religion in the world, and the inheritance law in Islam is just one little example of many that needs to be clarified so people would realize the real wisdom and justice in Islam and start appreciating it and respecting it more.

“My dear Muslim brother or sister, or my dear fellow Christian friend, according to Islam, it is my responsibility as a man to provide the financial source to my wife, kids, parents (when they get old), and my sisters (if they become widows). And if I refuse to support my widow sister for instance, then if she decides to take me to court and sue me, and prove that I make enough money to be able to support my wife, kids and my widow sister, then the court will force me to pay her money every month to support her. This law in Islam is called the law of “Nafaqa”. The woman according to islam does not have to provide a single dollar, nor her husband has the right to ask her or force her to use her money to support her husband and kids. In fact, just to show you how fair and respectful Islam is to women, a woman has the right to ask her husband for money for breast feeding her their child.

Furthermore, according to the Islamic laws, the husband does not have the right to force his wife to work if she doesn’t want to. It is the man’s primary responsibility to support his family financially, and not the woman.

Also, in Islam, the wife has all the right to ask her husband to pay for her education if she wishes to go to school. Women in Islam have the right to be educated, and it is their parents’ responsibilities (if the women are single), or their husband’s responsibility to pay for their education.”

Inheritance in the Bible:

Let us look at “If a man dies and leaves no son, turn his inheritance over to his daughter. (Numbers 27:8)”

So in other words, women (daughters, sisters and mothers) don’t inherit anything if a man (son) is present.

Female inheritance:

 One of the most important differences between the Quran and the Bible is their attitude towards female inheritance of the property of a deceased relative.

According to Numbers 27:1-11, widows and sisters don’t inherit at all. Daughters can inherit only if their deceased father had no sons. Otherwise the sons receive the entire inheritance. Among the pagan Arabs before Islam, inheritance rights were confined exclusively to the male relatives.

The Quran abolished all these unjust customs and gave all the female relatives their just share (4:7,11,12,176).

So is Islam fair then?

 It is quite obvious that Islam by far honors women in inheritance more than the Bible does. The Bible doesn’t even regard the women’s existence in inheritance if a son is present. The son takes all in the Bible.

In Islam, on the other hand, the daughter gets half of what the son gets, because under the law of “Nafaqa”, the son is responsible to support his (1) Wife and Kids; (2) Old Parents; (3) Widowed Sisters. In Islam, the wife doesn’t have to provide any financial support to her family. Only the man does.

So, it is very fair for the man to get equivalent to two women of inheritance in Islam. Wouldn’t you agree with me that if it is the man’s responsibility to support his parents (when they get old), wife, kids, and widow sisters, then it makes perfect sense for the man to get more money than the woman in inheritance?

Dink ook aan die feit dat die man geen reg het op die vrou se geld as sy werk nie, dus al haar geld kan sy spaar, of op haarself spandeer, dus wanneer hulle skei, kry sy haar deel van die geld en sy behou al haar geld ook…as ons hier in Suid Afrika as Christene skei, as die man en vrou binne gemeenskap getroud is, kan die man lekker verloor deur sy vrou helfte te gee van sy geld en die vrou kan ook sleg tweede kom…In Islam wen die vrou net, as sy niks geld gehad het om mee te begin nie, dan “score” sy mos. As sy ‘n goeie werk het waar sy meer geld as haar man verdien, het hy GEEN reg daartoe nie… Ek dink in elke geloof is daar ups and downs wat equality betref tussen mans en vrouens. Ek trou eerder met ‘n Islam man(solank hy nie Arab is nie) as wat ek met ‘n Suid-Afrikaanse buffel trou wat sy dikgat op die bank neerplaas en vroulief moet hom bedien left right and centre…. En die hele geskiedenis waar Suid-Afrikaanse mans geglo het ook vrouens moet by die huis bly, huis skoonmaak, kosmaak en kinders maak….mmmm…en dan nie eens gepraat van hoe vrouens hul weg moes baklei in die beroepswêreld nie…veral om hoë poste te kon beklee…so jy sien, elke ras, geloof, kultuur het hul goeie punte en slegte…en goeie geskiedenis en bad…en sommige mense kom oor hul issues en kyk vorentoe, ander sit vas in die verlede…

My Opinie oor Islam in die geheel:

 Die enigste rede hoekom almal so gekant is teen Islam is meer en deels omdat dit vereenselwig word met die Oorlog in die Midde-Ooste en die aanvalle op die USA. En dit is so verkeerd.

As een Christen of ‘n groep afgedwaalde Christene, soos bv die Ku Klux Klan die pad byster raak en begin mense vrek maak in die naam van Jesus, is dit nie verkeerd om dan die res van die Christen gelowiges te kruisig vir die sekte se dade nie? Ja, DIT IS!

 So vir my is dit net soveel verkeerd om die Islam gelowiges te kruisig vir dit wat byvoorbeeld Al Qaeda, ‘n terroriste groep, aanvang.

Net vir addisionele  informasie, hierso is ‘n link na:

The Infamous Hall of Christian Terrorist Organizations of the World

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/christian_terrorist_organizations.htm

 

3 Responses

  1. My stiefseun het onlangs “convert” na Islam en in ‘n poging om meer uit te vind oor die geloof, het ek heelwat navorsing begin doen oor die geloof.
    Jou inskrywing hierbo bespreek slegs die erflatingsreg van vroue onder die Islamitiese geloof.

    Soos tereg opgemerk, is die Islamitiese man verantwoordelik vir die finansiele versorging van sy vrou en familie. Die finansiele aspek is maar een van die aspekte van vrou wees in enige vrou se lewe. Ook interessant is die aanhaling ter stawing van die Bybelse (wat hier dien as direkte verwysing na die Christelike) praktyke rakende die erfreg uit die Ou Testament. Geen Nuwe Testamentiese verwysing nie? Interessant ook om te let dat die Koran se boodskap 1400 jaar gelede “geopenbaar” is aan die profeet Mohammed, reeds 600 nC.
    Volgens die Koran is ’n man geregtig om sy vrou te “dissiplineer”. Welliswaar net met ’n voorwerp soos ’n hedendaagse tandeborsel. Maar slegs die Islamitiese goedkeuring vir vroue mishandeling kan aanleiding gee tot die misbruik en oormaat van mishandeling.
    ’n Vrou mag ook, onder geen omstandighede, haar man seks weier in haar “rein” tydperke nie of tensy dit gedurende Koran voorskriftelike onthoudingsperiodes is soos gedurende Ramadan nie. Man se woord in hierdie verband is wet.
    Deur voor te gee dat vroue nie onderdruk word deur Islam nie, is dus nie korrek nie. Vroue se kleredrag word voorgeskryf, hulle mag nie mans direk aanspreek nie, hulle liggame en hare moet bedek wees sodat dit nie mans “verlei” nie. Die seksuele drange van mans word verheerlik en vroue in Islam word uitsluitlik gesien as voorwerpe van seksuele ontlading. Die profeet self was oorval deur begeerte toe hy sy een vrou (op daardie stadium ’n negejarige dogtertjie) gesien het en hy haar toe sy vrou gemaak het. Dit is sulke gedokumenteerde insidente wat my erg sku maak vir die geloof, wat tans die grootste gevolg ter wereld het.
    Die waarheid is dat vroue wereldwyd onderdruk is/was (nie net in Suid Afrika soos die verwysing in die inskrywing sou wou voorgee nie) en vroue eers onlangs in die westerse beskawing begin wegbeweeg het van hierdie praktyk wat ook in die Bybel voorkom. Ek sien in die koms van Jesus en die Nuwe Testament dat Jesus self glad nie teen vroue gediskrimineer is nie. Etlike voorbeelde van Jesus se optrede as beskermer van vroue en kinders is bekend aan Christen-vroue. Die apostels self en hul skrywe daarna was minder goedgesind, maar Jesus self het vroue nooit vertrap nie en ’n ere plek in die samelewing gegee.
    Hierdie is maar net my eie mening wat ek gevorm het nadat ek heelwat navorsing gedoen het.
    Die link na die Christen terroriste organisasies is verduidelik net dat enige Christen prediker wat die Hel se bestaan verkondig en gebruik om ander getrou tot die geloof te hou, as terroris gebrandmerk is. In Islam word die 72 maagde in die paradys voorgehou vir die MANS wat sterf vir die geloof. Die vroue van Islam het nie dieselfde “paradys” van seksuele orgies wat op hulle wag nie!!

  2. Hi, Dankie vir jou siening. Ek leer ook nog maar so het nie al die antwoorde nie. Wat ek wel ook doen is verder oplees om meer kennis op te doen. Ek is glad nie Islam nie, maar ook nie ‘n aktiewe Christen nie. JUIS omdat ek nog nie my mind kan opmaak nie. Ek het Christen grootgeword maar nou ja, kerke is meer politiek deesdae as enigeiets anders…Anyways, dis buiten die punt.

    Sover ek verstaan is daar baie dinge wat meer met kultuur te doene het as met Islam self – die twee is moeilik om te onderskei, maar sover my kennis strek mag die vrou nie mishandel word nie, maak nie saak wat nie. Sy kan haar man hof toe vat, net soos hierso in ons land, Suid Afrika. Ek word eerder met ‘n tandeborsel getik as wat ek ‘n vuishou van ‘n man kry as ek iets verkeerds gedoen het…daar’s soveel kante aan al die sake dis moeilik en soms onmoontlik om ‘n algehele afleiding te maak.

    Ek sal egter als wat jy genoem het gaan opsoek en kyk watse antwoorde ek kry want die orgies in paradys het ek nog nie van gehoor nie…ens.

    Ek weet ook in die Nuwe Testament word daar nie veel gepraat van erflatings en sulke dinge nie. Ek sal bietjie daaroor ook gaan uitvind.

  3. M, ek wil nog by hierdie inskrywing van jou uitkom, sodat ek dit rustig kan lees, ek het nog nie van dit vergeet nie hoor!

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